Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/16/2014 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 278 EDUCATION TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HB 385 PERS/TRS STATE CONTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
<Pending Referral>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 379 OIL & GAS PROPERTY TAX
Heard & Held
= SB 220 PERS/TRS STATE CONTRIBUTIONS
Heard & Held
= HB 308 ALASKA SECURITIES ACT EXEMPTIONS
Heard & Held
= HB 361 LICENSING OF BEHAVIOR ANALYSTS
Heard & Held
= HB 160 LICENSING OF ATHLETIC TRAINERS
Heard & Held
= SB 48 PERS CONTRIBUTIONS BY MUNICIPALITIES
Heard & Held
= HB 116 PERS CREDIT FOR MILITARY SERVICE
Moved CSHB 116(L&C) Out of Committee
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 379(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the limitation on the value of                                                                         
     property taxable by a municipality; and providing for                                                                      
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson pointed  out that the legislation  was the top                                                                    
priority for  the North  Slope Borough.  He shared  that the                                                                    
industry did  not have  a problem with  the bill,  and there                                                                    
was no loss of revenue to the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BENJAMIN NAGEAK, stated  that he was there to                                                                    
answer  any questions  on  the bill.  He  stressed that  his                                                                    
constituents  had   been  waiting   a  long  time   for  the                                                                    
legislation. He felt  that the bill was  a workable solution                                                                    
to the issue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson wondered  how Representative  Nageak, as  the                                                                    
former  mayor of  the North  Slope Borough,  saw the  budget                                                                    
advantages.   Representative   Nageak   replied   that   the                                                                    
legislation  would   be  very   helpful  to   the  borough's                                                                    
operating budget. He remarked  that infrastructure was built                                                                    
when  the borough  was established,  and  stressed that  the                                                                    
legislation  would provide  the  proper  maintenance to  the                                                                    
infrastructure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  surmised that the legislation  would provide                                                                    
the North Slope Borough more  flexibility for use of capital                                                                    
and operating funds. He queried the borough's current mil-                                                                      
rate. Representative  Nageak replied  that the  current mil-                                                                    
rate was 18.5. He stated that  the borough only had one year                                                                    
of a higher, 19.5 mil-rate.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  wondered if there  was a proposal  to change                                                                    
the mil-rate.  Representative Nageak replied that  there was                                                                    
no proposal  to change  the mil-rate.  He stressed  that the                                                                    
legislation was  intended to allow some  flexibility of fund                                                                    
usage.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  understood that there  was no  difference in                                                                    
the amount that the state  received from oil proceeds or any                                                                    
difference  in  the  amount that  the  oil  companies  paid.                                                                    
Representative Nageak agreed with that summation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:45:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA RODELL,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE, shared                                                                    
that the Department  of Revenue (DOR) worked  to ensure that                                                                    
the   bill  was   revenue  neutral.   She  recognized   that                                                                    
municipalities  throughout the  state  who had  oil and  gas                                                                    
property  may  need  flexibility  to  differentiate  between                                                                    
their  operating  and  debt  service.   She  felt  that  the                                                                    
legislation provided the  opportunity for the municipalities                                                                    
to  address  that  issue,   without  impacting  the  state's                                                                    
financial  picture,  nor  increase   the  taxes  within  the                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  wondered  if  the  bill  would  impact  the                                                                    
neighboring  cities. Commissioner  Rodell  replied that  the                                                                    
bill  would  affect  any  community that  had  oil  and  gas                                                                    
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked if the  Kenai and Soldotna was included                                                                    
in  the legislation.  Commissioner  Rodell  deferred to  Mr.                                                                    
Fonder.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Olson  wondered   if   the   communities  in   the                                                                    
unorganized boroughs  would be affected by  the legislation.                                                                    
Commissioner Rodell deferred to Mr. Fonder.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MATT FONDER,  DIRECTOR, TAX DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE                                                                    
(via teleconference), looked  at page 48 of  the DOR Revenue                                                                    
Sources  Book, and  announced that  there was  a table  that                                                                    
indicated the breakdown of property  taxes and how they were                                                                    
shared. He  stated that the  chart indicated that  the Kenai                                                                    
had oil and  gas property. The tax was $19.8  million in the                                                                    
year prior was  $19.8 million, and the local  share was $9.7                                                                    
million,  so the  state received  $10.1 million  in property                                                                    
taxes on the  oil and gas property in Kenai.  He stated that                                                                    
the unorganized  boroughs did not assess  property taxes, so                                                                    
the local  share on  the unorganized line  of the  chart was                                                                    
zero.  The  tax  on  oil and  gas  property  in  unorganized                                                                    
boroughs was  $58.9 million, and  was wholly  contributed to                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  surmised  that  the state  would  not  be                                                                    
financially  impacted   by  the   legislation.  Commissioner                                                                    
Rodell replied in the affirmative,  if the locals kept their                                                                    
property taxes the same.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if there  would be an impact  to the                                                                    
state  if  the  boroughs   made  changes  to  their  current                                                                    
property  taxes.  Commissioner  Rodell  replied  that  there                                                                    
could be  an impact to  the state, because that  was written                                                                    
in statute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  wondered if  the legislation  would change                                                                    
the borough's status  negatively or positively. Commissioner                                                                    
Rodell  responded   that  it   was  possible   that  certain                                                                    
communities could  receive a positive  impact, if  they have                                                                    
very low tax rates. She  stated that any municipalities that                                                                    
was at the 20 mil rate would not see any change.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  surmised that  Valdez would not  be harmed                                                                    
by the legislation. Commissioner Rodell agreed.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if  the Fairbanks  Northstar Borough                                                                    
would be  affected by  the legislation.  Commissioner Rodell                                                                    
responded  that the  borough  should not  be  harmed by  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:51:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  wondered why the law  was initially enacted                                                                    
for  9.08  mil-rate  for  the   operating  budget,  and  the                                                                    
difference  for the  capital  budget.   Commissioner  Rodell                                                                    
asked for clarification.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman wondered why the  current statute was set at                                                                    
9.08  mil-rate.  Commissioner   Rodell  responded  that  she                                                                    
understood  that the  9.08  mil-rate was  set  by the  local                                                                    
communities.  The  state had  a  statute  that directed  all                                                                    
localities, whether  or not there  was oil and  gas property                                                                    
tax, at  a rate of 30  mils. She stated that  the number was                                                                    
adjusted through the multiplier  factor into a corresponding                                                                    
mil-rate. The  North Slope Borough  had a 9.08  mil-rate for                                                                    
the operating budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman looked at the  third paragraph of a document                                                                    
provided by  the sponsor, which stated  that the restriction                                                                    
applied  to the  18.5  rate. The  current  law required  the                                                                    
municipalities to spend $9.8 million  on operating costs and                                                                    
$9.45 million capital costs. He  queried the reason for that                                                                    
restriction.   Commissioner   Rodell    replied   that   the                                                                    
multiplier put a cap on oil  and gas property was because of                                                                    
an issue of  fairness and equity. The state had  a desire to                                                                    
help  some  communities  that  did  not  have  oil  and  gas                                                                    
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  pointed  out   that  the  sponsor  statement                                                                    
clearly  pointed out  the restrictions  of  the tax  revenue                                                                    
usage.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROB   ELKINS,   DEPUTY   DIRECTOR,  NORTH   SLOPE   BOROUGH,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE, stated  that the committee  was dealing  with the                                                                    
mil-rate for  the current operating  year. The  mil-rate was                                                                    
determined through  the calculation,  which was  a statewide                                                                    
per capita value multiplied by  the 225 percent currently in                                                                    
statute.  It  was  then  multiplied   by  the  total  number                                                                    
residents,  to  arrive  at  an   equivalent  tax  base.  The                                                                    
equivalent tax base  was then multiplied by  the 30 mil-rate                                                                    
cap.  He  stated that  the  calculation  provided a  maximum                                                                    
dollar amount that could be  spent on operations. The amount                                                                    
was  then  converted into  a  mil-rate  based on  the  total                                                                    
assessed value. He  stated that the North  Slope Borough had                                                                    
continued to limit itself with the 18.5 mil rate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   wondered  why  the  original   formula  was                                                                    
established, which used so much  money for debt service. Mr.                                                                    
Elkins  responded that  he understood  that the  statute was                                                                    
put in place in order to  achieve equity. It would limit the                                                                    
borough's ability to sell debt.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked why the  fiscal note was indeterminate.                                                                    
Commissioner  Rodell  replied  that   the  fiscal  note  was                                                                    
indeterminate.  The  fiscal  note   would  be  zero  if  the                                                                    
communities  continue to  operate  as  they were  currently.                                                                    
There could  be positive  adjustments to  the state,  if the                                                                    
communities lowered their mil-rate  to take advantage of the                                                                    
greater operating  flexibility. Adversely, if  the community                                                                    
raises their  mil-rate, it  will have  a negative  impact to                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:40 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Fairclough announced that  she would like to hear                                                                    
testimony  on  the  legislation from  the  State  Assessor's                                                                    
Office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 379(FIN)  was HEARD and  HELD in committee  for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer handed the gavel to Co-Chair Kelly.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:03:07 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:16:47 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB278 School Funding Ltr 4-15-14.pdf SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 BSA increase please - Landry.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Increase the BSA - Remick.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Senate Finance Committee - Brown.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support increased education funding - Crimp.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A rural perspective about our funding challenges - Walsh.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Request for Funding - Fischer.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
Hb278 BSA - Schafer - Mozen.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Testimony on HB278 BSA Increase - Boyle.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 BSA - Campell.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 To Senate Finance Committee Members -- Please support our public schools Increase BSA by $400$125$125 - Wiggin.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 base student allocation - Crane.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please Support School Funding - Woern.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 - Please support our schools! - Wittrock.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Fund public schools with $400 BSA - Pease.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 TVEP Public Testimony - Reynolds.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 AWIB - CTE Programs RTC List - Reynolds.pdf SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 BSA URGENT - Tague.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Don't stop public school funding - Olnes.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 School allocations - Shewman.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Increase the BSA - Glenn.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 BSA - Johnson.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 FCC Scool and Libray Policy Brief.pdf SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 FCC changes to Universal Service Reform for the e-rate program - FCC-13-100A1.docx SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Fully fund our schools - please - Burch.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A thru F grading of schools -- Keep it! - Boyle.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 AASA Testimony.pdf SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A-F Grading provision in HB 278 - Griffin.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A thru F grading of schools -- Keep it! - Boyle2.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 school funding plea! - Reed.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Public Schools - Norton.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Increase BSA please - Engh.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please increase the BSA and avoid more layoffs! - Shellenbaum.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Increase the BSA - Zafren.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 INCREASE BSA - Decker.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please Support our Educational Discourse Fund our Schools - Waisanen.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Raise the BSA $600 effective FY15. Show us the money. - Bronson.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Base student allocation - Retus.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Education Funding - Raise BSA - Buss.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Funding public education - Wiggin.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Support Alaska's Students - Bivins.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 School Funding - Gal.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 School Funding - Cramer.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Education matters! - Harmon.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support our public schools! - Perrins.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 school funding - Kushin.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Student Base Allocation and Susitna Dam - Pierce.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please help the Alaska kids - Cedano.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please prioritize education for all Alaskans - Manning.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Fully fund schools - Richotte.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please increase the BSA by $400 AND $125 for the next 2 years - Boots.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support our Alaska schools - Nash.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 BSA Adjustment - Sparrow.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Education funding - Meidinger.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 District School Deficit in Delta Junction - Becker.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB 385-Funding Public Testimony - Dean.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 385
HB278 My kids can't wait. They are in school now! - Rardin.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
Hb278 BSA - Schafer - Mozen.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Request for Funding - Fischer.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support increased education funding - Crimp.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A rural perspective about our funding challenges - Walsh.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Request for Funding - Fischer.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 A rural perspective about our funding challenges - Walsh.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support increased education funding - Crimp.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Senate Finance Committee - Brown.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 AFN BSA resolution.pdf SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Increase the Base Student Allocation - Spohnholz.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Public Testimony - Rutherford.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Our Students Our Future - Story.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Juneau Board of Education Resolution.docx SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Raise the BSA 400125125 - Eubanks.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Education Funding - Curran.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please increase the BSA and prioritize education funding - Manning.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 PLEASE INCREASE THE BSA! - Wijtalewicz.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Comments on Senate Bill 278 - Lambert.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please support an increase to the BSA - Richards.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Please increase BSA - Brubaker.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278
HB278 Support for our Schools - Cordano.msg SFIN 4/16/2014 1:30:00 PM
HB 278